Showing posts with label China. Show all posts
Showing posts with label China. Show all posts

Tuesday, April 11, 2017

List of Cheap Chinese Online Buying sites

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/wiki/list_of_buying_sites

Disclaimer

This list is not in any way a recommendation, sanction or endorsement by Ozbargain, its members or its affiliates. This list is provided for information purposes only. Sites on this list have not gone through verification. Also the quality of products bought from these sites is often hit-and-miss: You get what you pay for.

List Description

Here is a list of various Online sites for buying direct from Hong Kong/China.

The List

Price Comparison

These sites do price comparison for the Chinese buying sites:

Tips and Advice

  • As stated above, OzBargain, its members or its affiliates cannot be held responsible by for any shops listed here. If you do decide to use these sites, they are not sanctioned or recommended by Ozbargain.
  • Products bought from here are often much cheaper than a similar product at a retail store, but this often comes at the cost of quality.
  • The products are mostly advertised in USD and often include free shipping
  • Shipping varies widely between stores, but generally expect anything from 15-60 days.
  • Large numbers of products in a single order may cause your order to be delayed, as sellers tend to wait till all items are instock before shipping.
  • DHL/EMS are usually good options for faster postage at higher cost.
  • Try searching for coupons for a site before checking out; often you can save around 5% with a simple google search.
  • Most of the stores listed above have been used by ozbargain members – try searching the forums before trying a store.
  • Some of the above listings are marketplaces for sellers (like eBay), so you need to verify the quality of the seller as well as the quality of the marketplace.
  • Some sites may appear to be missing from this list – some have been banned on ozbargain for spam, sockpuppeting or other major issues, if you notice one missing, try searching the forum first or ask a mod.
  • Many sites have Affiliate Programs, where you can get a commission on sales. Do not abuse this on ozbargain, you will be banned. See Posting Referral Links for more info.

Prudent Warnings

  • Use your judgement – if its too good to be true, it probably is.
  • NEVER pay via credit card to avoid credit card fraud.
  • Pay with PayPal where possible to benefit from PayPal buyer protection.
  • It is YOUR responsibility to avoid importing illegal and dangerous products. Stay away from imitation weapons, lasers, fireworks, telecom/radio equipment that operates in illegal frequencies. Customs will pick it up and you will be fined $$$. Don't trust the sellers specs on lasers – if Customs tests it and it is mislabelled, YOU will be held responsible.
  • Consider your safety: cheap make-up products from china may contain very dangerous/toxic chemicals!!
  • You will get what you paid for – if its cheap, don't expect high quality or precise manufacturing, build quality or reliability.
  • It is common for popular products to be 'cloned' by a different manufacturer at a lower price, often at a cost of lower quality. It is even common for clone products to be cloned! (e.g. SJ4000 action camera) Often these stores can be a good way to buy high-quality products designed for the China market, but cloning is rampant so be careful.
  • Do not be fooled by the photos, do your own research.
  • Some are well-known stores others are not. Do your own research on google and search the ozbargain forums.
  • These are international stores. Don't expect them to honour price errors or Australian consumer laws.
  • If a product seems substantially cheaper than elsewhere ask – how yourself: could they have cut corners manufacturing this product? Will it perform to the same standard and am I happy to accept this if not?

Warranty and Faulty Products

  • Being polite and patient in communication is the best way to get help and support from these businesses.
  • Never threaten, or get abusive or rude – the person you are dealing for support with has nothing to do with the quality of the product.
  • Send a photo of the issue to the seller.
  • For lower value items, typically the seller will issue a refund or ship a replacement to you.
  • For higher-value items, you will be responsible for return postage costs – this can be costly so consider warranty costs before purchasing.
  • Generally warranty service can be difficult to obtain beyond 6 months after purchase, the policies vary from seller to seller.

Friday, April 7, 2017

How to buy handsets and other electronic devices from Chinese online stores

https://www.gogi.in/buy-handsets-chinese-online-stores.html

There are many new handsets being launched in India, unfortunately there are better ones with latest hardware available on Chinese websites. You can buy the handsets from Chinese online stores, and here is what you should know.
Now before you plan to go ahead with the purchase do note that there is a minor risk, it is with reference to the device you order. For example you might face issues with the phone you bought or it does not start at all, in such a case sending the device back / after sales support will not be that easy. But in most cases you will get a perfectly working phone, but yes keep in mind there is this small risk. You should also check the terms and conditions from the site you are buying.
There are two ways to order you can either go for the express shipping or ordinary registered post. The express shipping is costlier but in the end the shipping cost + custom duty comes up to the same as normal shipping, though better to use express shipping as it delivers faster.
Now avoid using gift / lower invoice value especially for mobile phones. It is better to be honest and if possible ask the seller to attach a screen shot of the product with the actual price.
I have used both ordinary post and express shipping and here are my experiences.
Buy handsets and other electronic devices from Chinese online stores

Ordinary registered Post

This is cheaper takes a lot of time and the custom duty is always higher, better to avoid it for high cost products (over Rs. 7000).

Express shipping

This will cost you extra, its faster and the custom duty is comparatively lower.
In general the extra charges i.e. shipping + customs will come to near about the same for both express / ordinary post.
Some users / sellers suggest to ship the handset with lower price tag like $30 or under so as to avoid the custom duty for such devices. However it will all depend on your luck if you are lucky you will not have to pay any duty, but if you are not, you will end up paying the actual duty + in some cases extra fine that will be much, much higher will cost you 2x or more the amount you spend on your phone.

How much custom duty you need to pay?

Well you can check it on dutycalculator.com but do note that every time the duty will be different, depending on the custom official inspecting your device. Just to give you an idea. I have paid Rs. 4,000 for a Rs. 7,000 device (using ordinary post), at times Rs. 900 for a Rs. 8,000 device (using DHL). And recently Rs. 6,200 for 2 smartphones totaling to $320 from China using DHL post. Also better to attach screen shot for device + price from the seller website as proof. And guess what I got the OnePlus One from USA (a long time back) – $349, that time I paid Rs. 3,420 for custom + shipping, Customs Duty was Rs. 1,573.
It is safe to assume that for a 160$ handset from China you will end up paying anywhere from Rs. 1000 to Rs. 3000 total custom duty.

Where do you pay the custom duty?

If you have ordered it from normal post you will need to pay it to the postman. And if you have used express shipping you will have to pay to the courier guy at the time of delivery.

Popular Websites

Pandawill, aliexpress, gearbest, coolcool, banggood.com, dx etc.

Which Shipping service to use for shipping into India

For high value products say 50$ and over better use DHL or Fedex. I know these shipping services cost extra, but they are far cheaper than the EMS Speed Post services.
If you use EMS shipping in case of custom verification you will have to visit personally or via your agent/authorized person, you will not only be wasting your time but also end up paying much higher amount, it is cheaper to leave the package there. Just avoid EMS at all cost, pathetic services, go with DHL or Fedex they are 1000 times better, cheaper and honest (as long you are honest).
Also note for EMS dutiable articles, intended for personal use, imported by post or air are restricted to Rs. 2000, anything above that and you will have to pay duty + fine on full amount, they will also calculate shipping, so avoid EMS, period.
Check the image below – it is the reason why most people fall into the trap, they think importing goods from EMS/normal post is free and most free shipping use this option. Instead of putting a board outside the custom office saying “do not pay bribe/ report bribe” it would be better if they put up rules and regulations and educate people regarding the rules of EMS/ import.
Indian EMS rule
If you get called you will need to pay almost the same cost that you spend. Problem is most people don’t really know how EMS works and it is not a good option for importing goods over 30$ for personal use. It looks cheaper but it is not, and also the primary reason for corruption.